[WNYLUG-Users] New AMD processors and Linux

Joe josephj at main.nc.us
Wed Feb 1 19:32:15 EST 2012

Thanks.  That's the best feedback - from someone like you who's actually 
dealt with more that a few items.  Most reviews, etc.are hard to 
evaluate because you have no idea how much someone really knows or 
whether they're connected to the product in some way.

On 01/31/2012 08:13 PM, Monkberry wrote:
> Acers are good for about a year or two, you might get lucky beyond 
> that. I've sold a lot of them and have a lot of them around here that 
> were returned completely fried. Usually from weird usb insertions that 
> would just bork the entire motherboard. And the tech support is like 
> trying to find a needle in a hay stack and horrible web site, forget 
> about finding bios updates, just bad all the way around.
> For a good quality good priced laptop, stick with Lenovo, and the tech 
> support I've seen from them is outstanding, from emails, to texts (yes 
> texts) to actually phoning me after I had to send one in for a 
> defective display (I've literally sold over a hundred Lenovos and 
> that's the only one that had a problem like that). Just superior 
> customer support, it was a pleasure to see that these days.
> On 01/31/2012 07:50 PM, Joe wrote:
>> So, I assume you have no issues with video drivers (at least now).
>> Is there an easy way to compare between AMD and Intel processors - to 
>> generally rank them by "real" processing power.  I've looked at 
>> benchmarks in the past and they generally confuse me or have results 
>> for everything except the model I'm looking for.  Aside from running 
>> p2p software and occasionally transcoding an avi to a dvd, most of 
>> what I do is web browsing, email, and some coding and writing.
>> I keep hearing that Acer makes low quality products.  I even heard 
>> that their last CEO said as much just before or after he was fired.  
>> They are certainly attractively priced.  What has your experience been?
>> On 01/31/2012 08:24 AM, J G wrote:
>>> I have an acer laptop that has an AMD quad phenom 2 chip with ati 
>>> 6450 video.  My laptop
>>> stays cool and runs fast as hell.  Mint runs great on it.  Win 7 
>>> boots up nicely too.  I always
>>> use a laptop cooler though.  I myself use intel laptops at work.  
>>> The real world performance
>>> of the AMD chips is superior to intel, benchmarks do no tell the 
>>> whole story.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
>>> *From:* SilverBear <silverbear at inbox.com>
>>> *To:* Western New York Linux Users Group Users Mailing List 
>>> <users at wnylug.org>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 30, 2012 10:03 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WNYLUG-Users] New AMD processors and Linux
>>> I've been a fan of AMD processors for years. The desktop machine I 
>>> built for myself, upon which I now type, is an AMD-64X2.
>>> I'm not so sure about having AMD in a notebook though.  My son and I 
>>> have fairly comparable laptop machines --in fact, they both have the 
>>> same integrated nVidia video.  And the processors are similar 
>>> power.  His label is Compaq and mine is MSI; his processor is AMD 
>>> and mine is Intel. =>  Mine runs MUCH cooler. <=
>>> Colin used to prop his notebook up sideways with a book under one 
>>> corner so the built-in vents & fan would be more effective.
>>> I wound up buying him a metal-frame cookie rack (family joke) with 
>>> an optional USB fan so that more air can circulate underneath. It 
>>> works fine with that cooling stand (without the fan, usually), and 
>>> it only cost, like maybe, $12-15 at Geeks.com <http://Geeks.com>, or 
>>> NewEgg, or someplace like that. But I'm glad I don't need to mess 
>>> around with mine.
>>> Not only do the AMD processors themselves run hotter, but they are 
>>> not as tolerant to heat as Intel CPUs. I'm talking factory specs, 
>>> the fail temperature.
>>> Well, let me say that _was_ true in 2009 when I was looking for a 
>>> new notebook for myself. After Colin's hot time with his Compaq, I 
>>> decided to do research on CPU specs, and that's what I came up with. 
>>> (And so, I bought a portable w/Intel.)  Whether it still holds true 
>>> a about 2 1/2 years later, I can't say.
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: josephj at main.nc.us <mailto:josephj at main.nc.us>
>>> > Sent: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:30:18 -0500
>>> > To: users at wnylug.org <mailto:users at wnylug.org>
>>> > Subject: [WNYLUG-Users] New AMD processors and Linux
>>> >
>>> > In the past, a rule of thumb  was to stay away from ATI video 
>>> processors
>>> > because they didn't play well with Linux.
>>> >
>>> > Now that AMD owns ATI, does that same rule apply to all their newer
>>> > chips (A6, A8) that have Radeon (ATI) graphics built in?  I assume it
>>> > would, but I want to be sure.
>>> >
>>> > I think one of the notebooks at the install fest was one of these and
>>> > the video didn't work.
>>> >
>>> > My notebook is on its last legs and needs to be replaced and I 
>>> believe
>>> > that AMD based processors usually have a better 
>>> performance/priceratio.
>>> >
>>> > Joe
>>> >
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