[WNYLUG-Users] buying a legal Windows vm?

Joe josephj at main.nc.us
Fri Jul 29 18:56:41 EDT 2011


On 07/29/2011 07:47 AM, Monkberry wrote:
> how else Joe? control panel-add/remove programs. Look for things like 
> the proprietary (hp) stuff, intel drivers, etc., that may no longer be 
> relevant in the vm and if your unsure of things, fire up msconfig and 
> turn off everything that isnt ms in services and startup and reboot, 
> if it all comes up ok, leave it.
>
> On 07/29/2011 07:24 AM, Joe wrote:
>> OK.   But you told me in a previous thread to strip out all thee 
>> unneeded stuff from XP to make it faster.  Any pointers on how to do 
>> that safely and (hopefully) easily?
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On 07/28/2011 10:05 AM, Monkberry wrote:
>>> and xp code in a pc will lead you to trouble ....... ;-)
>>>
>>> sorry, couldn't resist that one lol
>>>
>>> On 07/28/2011 09:38 AM, ron browning wrote:
>>>> xp cd code in google will lead you  to an answer.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* Joe <josephj at main.nc.us>
>>>> *To:* WNYLUG <Users at wnylug.org>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:18 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WNYLUG-Users] buying a legal Windows vm?
>>>>
>>>> On 07/27/2011 08:52 PM, justin.bennett at dynabrade.com 
>>>> <mailto:justin.bennett at dynabrade.com> wrote:
>>>> > Do you have a valid XP product code? Maybe from the PC your trashed?
>>>> > All you need then is a XP Install CD (It's just media, the code is
>>>> > everything), create a new VM, boot the VM off the XP CD and do a 
>>>> fresh
>>>> > install. Then you can install the VM extensions and all the drivers
>>>> > should be all set.  If you know anyone who has a dell, they usually
>>>> > ship with a reinstall CD as well, it will have dell branding but 
>>>> will
>>>> > say something like 'for reinstalling XP home SP2'. If you can't 
>>>> get a
>>>> > hold of one let me know if you have a XP home or PRO code, I can 
>>>> prob
>>>> > dig one up.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > *Joe <josephj at main.nc.us <mailto:josephj at main.nc.us>>*
>>>> > Sent by: users-bounces at wnylug.org <mailto:users-bounces at wnylug.org>
>>>> >
>>>> > 07/27/2011 08:17 PM
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>>>> >     [WNYLUG-Users] buying a legal Windows vm?
>>>> >
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > My XP vm works, but it has system problems that cause it to 
>>>> "Prepare to
>>>> > install" 10 or 15 times every time I boot it and it has all the 
>>>> stuff
>>>> > that a hardware install needs that a vm doesn't.  (It was built from
>>>> > what I had running and wasn't clean to start with.)  I'm past the 
>>>> point
>>>> > of trying to fix it.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm wondering - with all the virtual appliances out there, can I 
>>>> just
>>>> > buy an XP vm (with a legal M$ license)?
>>>> >
>>>> > My system has "HP extensions" in it.  Do they do anything I 
>>>> really need
>>>> > in the vm?
>>>> >
>>>> > Once I have a clean XP vm (kind of like the holy grail - rumored to
>>>> > exist), I can back it up as I change it and restore a copy when 
>>>> (not if)
>>>> > things start to go south.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't have restore disks for my system so I could buy them and 
>>>> rebuild
>>>> > it, but then I'd have to sift out all the bloatware and unneeded
>>>> > hardware drivers.  And, I'd have to make sure it didn't erase Linux.
>>>> > I'd have to put the boot loader back too.  It's something I could
>>>> > certainly do, but with the amount of time and effort it would take,
>>>> > buying a pre-built vm might make more sense.
>>>> >
>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>> >
>>>> > Joe
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> I have Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 (which is a variant of 
>>>> XP Pro) and a product code for it on the bottom of my HP dv5020us 
>>>> notebook.  If you have a disk that will work with my product code, 
>>>> that would be wonderful!  I downloaded an image from a torrent 
>>>> somewhere, but it did not accept my product key.
>>>>
>>>> If you have somewhere you can put an iso image file of the XP 
>>>> disk(s), I can download it.  (Probably best if you give me the 
>>>> location off list.) If not, I occasionally go past Dynabrade and I 
>>>> could pick it up, copy it, and return the original.
>>>>
>>>> Know anything about what "HP Extensions" are?
>>>>
>>>> Do you know of a howto, etc. for stripping out all the things that 
>>>> XP needs for bare metal that are not needed by the vm (like 
>>>> hardware drivers)?  Pete said to do it, but I don't know how.  In 
>>>> the past (on other machines), I've had a lot of "fun" with tools 
>>>> like registry cleaners  and removing things that made things worse. 
>>>> You have to know a lot more than I ever want to know about Windows 
>>>> internals to do things like that safely.
>>>>
>>>> The notebook has its maximum memory of 2GB and it needs all the 
>>>> help it can get when I take half of that and give it to the vm.  
>>>> Linux is much happier when it has the whole 2GB.  With 1GB, it can 
>>>> use a ton of swap when I'm running a small bunch of torrents.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I didn't trash the PC - just the XP vm (and the original XP 
>>>> that I converted to the vm and don't use any more) is flakey at 
>>>> startup, but works fine after that - just slowly.  Darn good for a 
>>>> six year old system that has never been reinstalled!  I don't know 
>>>> about Windows 7 (yet), but for XP, everybody I read said it needed 
>>>> to be reinstalled about once every six months just to clean up all 
>>>> the mess it did to itself - let alone what users did to it.  It 
>>>> runs kubuntu lucid very nicely and I use it for everything.
>>>>
>>>> I still have my Dell desktop (dual boot with Linux), but it's so 
>>>> old, it still runs Windows 98 (upgraded from 95!) along with 
>>>> Mandrake 9.1 that Bob Meyer installed for me when I first joined 
>>>> the lug.  I'm trying to convince myself to get rid of it, but it 
>>>> still works ....
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>>
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Thanks.  add/remove, I'm used to (especially with revo uninstaller).  
msconfig works for me because it's reversible.  If there's a problem, 
then I can just divide and conquer until it's isolated.

Joe



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