[WNYLUG-Users] buying a legal Windows vm?

Joe josephj at main.nc.us
Fri Jul 29 07:33:41 EDT 2011

Thanks.  I have no idea what it's worth.  If Justin's image doesn't 
work, I'll get back to you.


On 07/28/2011 08:33 AM, Neal Chapman wrote:
> Often those OEM copies of Windows are tied to the hardware so a clean 
> install into a VM does not always work. Best bet is buying a legit 
> copy of Windows XP and installing into a VM clean. I have an opened 
> copy of Windows XP Home I would be willing to sell for cheap.
> Neal Chapman
> http://www.wnylug.org
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Joe <josephj at main.nc.us 
> <mailto:josephj at main.nc.us>> wrote:
>     On 07/27/2011 08:52 PM, justin.bennett at dynabrade.com
>     <mailto:justin.bennett at dynabrade.com> wrote:
>         Do you have a valid XP product code? Maybe from the PC your
>         trashed?
>         All you need then is a XP Install CD (It's just media, the code is
>         everything), create a new VM, boot the VM off the XP CD and do
>         a fresh
>         install. Then you can install the VM extensions and all the
>         drivers
>         should be all set.  If you know anyone who has a dell, they
>         usually
>         ship with a reinstall CD as well, it will have dell branding
>         but will
>         say something like 'for reinstalling XP home SP2'. If you
>         can't get a
>         hold of one let me know if you have a XP home or PRO code, I
>         can prob
>         dig one up.
>         *Joe <josephj at main.nc.us <mailto:josephj at main.nc.us>>*
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>         07/27/2011 08:17 PM
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>                [WNYLUG-Users] buying a legal Windows vm?
>         My XP vm works, but it has system problems that cause it to
>         "Prepare to
>         install" 10 or 15 times every time I boot it and it has all
>         the stuff
>         that a hardware install needs that a vm doesn't.  (It was
>         built from
>         what I had running and wasn't clean to start with.)  I'm past
>         the point
>         of trying to fix it.
>         I'm wondering - with all the virtual appliances out there, can
>         I just
>         buy an XP vm (with a legal M$ license)?
>         My system has "HP extensions" in it.  Do they do anything I
>         really need
>         in the vm?
>         Once I have a clean XP vm (kind of like the holy grail -
>         rumored to
>         exist), I can back it up as I change it and restore a copy
>         when (not if)
>         things start to go south.
>         I don't have restore disks for my system so I could buy them
>         and rebuild
>         it, but then I'd have to sift out all the bloatware and unneeded
>         hardware drivers.  And, I'd have to make sure it didn't erase
>         Linux.
>         I'd have to put the boot loader back too.  It's something I could
>         certainly do, but with the amount of time and effort it would
>         take,
>         buying a pre-built vm might make more sense.
>         Any ideas?
>         Joe
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>     I have Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 (which is a variant of
>     XP Pro) and a product code for it on the bottom of my HP dv5020us
>     notebook.  If you have a disk that will work with my product code,
>     that would be wonderful!  I downloaded an image from a torrent
>     somewhere, but it did not accept my product key.
>     If you have somewhere you can put an iso image file of the XP
>     disk(s), I can download it.  (Probably best if you give me the
>     location off list.) If not, I occasionally go past Dynabrade and I
>     could pick it up, copy it, and return the original.
>     Know anything about what "HP Extensions" are?
>     Do you know of a howto, etc. for stripping out all the things that
>     XP needs for bare metal that are not needed by the vm (like
>     hardware drivers)?  Pete said to do it, but I don't know how.  In
>     the past (on other machines), I've had a lot of "fun" with tools
>     like registry cleaners  and removing things that made things
>     worse. You have to know a lot more than I ever want to know about
>     Windows internals to do things like that safely.
>     The notebook has its maximum memory of 2GB and it needs all the
>     help it can get when I take half of that and give it to the vm.
>      Linux is much happier when it has the whole 2GB.  With 1GB, it
>     can use a ton of swap when I'm running a small bunch of torrents.
>     BTW, I didn't trash the PC - just the XP vm (and the original XP
>     that I converted to the vm and don't use any more) is flakey at
>     startup, but works fine after that - just slowly.  Darn good for a
>     six year old system that has never been reinstalled!  I don't know
>     about Windows 7 (yet), but for XP, everybody I read said it needed
>     to be reinstalled about once every six months just to clean up all
>     the mess it did to itself - let alone what users did to it.  It
>     runs kubuntu lucid very nicely and I use it for everything.
>     I still have my Dell desktop (dual boot with Linux), but it's so
>     old, it still runs Windows 98 (upgraded from 95!) along with
>     Mandrake 9.1 that Bob Meyer installed for me when I first joined
>     the lug.  I'm trying to convince myself to get rid of it, but it
>     still works ....
>     Thanks.
>     Joe
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